Teaching English as a Second Language (ESL) – Episode 83 of The Thoughtful Travel Podcast

Teaching English as a second language has played a very important role in my life (and the life of this blog, in fact!). It was for a TESOL/TEFL job that I left Australia and lived in Japan, Slovakia and Germany – this was “back in the day” when earning money online wasn’t a thing, and teaching English abroad was the way to go if you wanted what we now see as a nomadic kind of lifestyle (these days you can teach English online from the comfort of your own home, or from a home anywhere in the world – how things change!).

One of my TESOL jobs teaching ESL in Perth

Me with one of my ESL classes in Perth teaching business English

At the time I really chose ESL teaching as a way to get the chance to live abroad, without really considering too deeply whether I’d enjoy it or not. Turns out, though, that I loved it, and I had so many wonderful experiences that I never would have had without such a job. And one day in the future I absolutely envision teaching ESL again.

But in the meantime, chatting to three people who’ve figured out how to teach English abroad in various capacities around the world is a great option too, and I loved putting together this episode of the podcast.

Show notes: Episode 83 of The Thoughtful Travel Podcast

Teaching English as a Second Language (ESL)

Teaching English as a second language can be anywhere from a fascinating lifelong career to a short stint while travelling, and in Episode 83 of The Thoughtful Travel Podcast I chat with three teachers who have taught both offline and online around the world.

First up, I talk to Cassandra Le about her two years of experience as an assistant English teacher in Spain. She learnt a lot about the English language itself, about how Spanish is different, and above all that an English teacher needs patience! I also chat briefly with Matt Treglia who began teaching English face-to-face in Korea but now has a job to teach English online to kids in China and is location independent – the advent of online English teaching jobs is quite a game-changer I think!

Finally, I chat with long-time English teacher and writer of some excellent text books and readers for English learners here in Australia, Clare Harris, who has a whole host of useful tips for people who may be considering teaching English somewhere in the world.





  1. Hello, I listened to your podcast yesterday for the first time and I thought it was awesome! I’ll subscribe your newsletter too. Congrats! 🙂

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